Stroke, Bale & Flake Counter FAQs
Basic counter questions, including what each counter does and how operators use the information.
The stroke counter tracks baler plunger strokes. It helps the operator see baler speed, strokes per minute, and strokes per bale from the cab.
This gives the operator a simple way to understand how the baler is being fed. It can also help show whether ground speed is staying consistent or changing too much across the field.
Strokes per bale means how many plunger strokes it takes to make one bale. For example, if the monitor shows 12 strokes per bale, that bale was made in 12 plunger strokes.
This number gives the operator feedback about how much hay is feeding into the baler. If the number changes a lot, it may point to uneven windrows, changing crop flow, or ground speed changes.
Strokes per minute, often called SPM, is the baler plunger speed. It helps the operator stay aware of how fast the baler is running.
Watching SPM is useful because many balers have an ideal operating range. Staying in that range helps the baler run smoother and helps the operator make better decisions about ground speed.
Strokes per bale helps show how much hay is feeding into the baler with each stroke. If the number is high, the operator may be feeding too slowly. If it is low, the operator may be pushing too hard or feeding unevenly.
It is a useful guide for improving bale consistency and operator awareness. It does not replace operator judgment, but it gives the operator a real-time number to work from instead of guessing.
The bale counter counts completed bales. BestBale systems include a resettable field counter and a fixed lifetime counter.
The field counter is useful for day-to-day tracking, while the lifetime counter gives a longer-term view of total baler production.
The resettable counter can be used for a field, load, customer job, day of baling, or any situation where you want to track a specific bale total.
Many operators use it to keep fields, customers, or loads separated without having to write down every number by hand.
The lifetime counter tracks total bales over time. It is not meant to be reset like the field counter.
This can be helpful for tracking baler usage, maintenance intervals, resale information, or simply understanding how much work the baler has done.
The flake counter counts actual flakes going into each bale. It works from the hay dog and only counts when a flake is actually made.
This gives the operator a better picture of real bale formation instead of only counting plunger strokes. It is especially helpful when crop flow is uneven or windrows vary across the field.
The stroke counter counts plunger strokes. The flake counter counts actual flakes.
That difference matters because a plunger stroke does not always mean a full flake was made. The stroke counter is still useful, but the flake counter gives a better view of how the bale is actually being formed.
The flake counter is more accurate for true flakes per bale because it only counts when hay actually feeds and creates a flake.
A stroke counter can count every plunger stroke even when the feed is not perfectly even. The flake counter gives a more direct measurement of what is happening inside the bale chamber.
They do different jobs. The stroke counter is useful for baler speed and strokes per bale. The flake counter is better for true flakes per bale and actual bale formation.
If you only want basic monitoring, the stroke counter is helpful. If you want a clearer picture of bale structure and feeding consistency, the flake counter adds valuable information.
Flakes per bale affect bale shape, consistency, handling, stacking, and production speed. Watching flake count helps the operator keep the baler in a more consistent operating range.
Too many flakes can slow production, while too few flakes can affect bale structure. The best number depends on the crop, bale length, density, and the operator’s goals.
It can help. If the operator is making more flakes per bale than needed, the flake counter may show that there is room to increase ground speed while still keeping bale quality under control.
The goal is not simply to go faster. The goal is to help the operator find a consistent, productive range without sacrificing bale quality.
Yes, the flake counter can be used with Lite and Pro systems when it is compatible with the baler model and kit configuration.
Compatibility can vary by baler, so it is best to check the Kit Builder or contact BestBale if you are unsure about your specific setup.
Hydraulic Pressure Control FAQs
Questions about in-cab pressure control, Manual Mode, Auto Mode, and when a base Pro kit makes sense.
Hydraulic pressure control lets the operator adjust baler chamber pressure, which affects bale density and bale weight.
On a compatible Pro system, that adjustment can be made from the cab. This is helpful when windrows, moisture, crop type, or field conditions change throughout the day.
BestBale Pro systems include hydraulic pressure control when the baler and kit configuration support it. Lite systems do not control hydraulic pressure.
This is one of the main differences between Lite and Pro. Lite gives the operator information, while Pro can also make or control pressure adjustments.
Yes. With a compatible Pro system, the operator can adjust hydraulic pressure from the tractor cab.
This can save time because the operator does not have to stop and climb out of the cab every time a pressure adjustment is needed.
No. Lite provides monitoring, but it does not control pressure.
If the bale density needs to change with Lite, the operator still makes that adjustment manually. Lite can help show when an adjustment may be needed, but it does not make the adjustment.
Manual Mode lets the operator control baler pressure from the cab. The operator watches the system information and manually increases or decreases pressure as needed.
This is useful when starting a field, fine-tuning bale weight, or running a Pro system without scales installed.
Auto Mode lets the operator set a target bale weight. When compatible BestBale scales are installed, the Pro system automatically adjusts pressure to help keep bales near that target.
This reduces the amount of manual pressure adjustment needed during the day. It is especially useful when windrows, crop flow, or operators change.
Yes, base Pro kits include pressure control on compatible balers. However, automatic bale-weight control requires compatible BestBale scales.
Without scales, the operator can still control pressure from the cab, but the system does not have live bale-weight input for Auto Mode.
The base Pro kit can be useful, but most customers get the full value of the Pro system when scales are added.
The main reason is that scales enable Auto Mode, allowing the system to automatically adjust pressure based on target bale weight. Without scales, Pro still gives in-cab pressure control, but not automatic weight-based control.
A base Pro kit without scales may make sense if you have a setup that is not currently compatible with BestBale scales but may be compatible in the future.
Certain accumulator or bundler setups, such as some Norden accumulator or Bale Baron T-model configurations, may not currently be compatible with our scale systems.
It can also make sense in some multi-baler operations where one baler has a full Pro kit with scales and other balers use base Pro kits for in-cab pressure control and matching operator settings.
Pressure control saves time and helps the operator respond faster as windrows, crop conditions, and bale weight change. With Pro, those changes can be made from the cab.
It also helps reduce the delay between noticing a problem and making an adjustment. That can be valuable during long days or in fields with changing conditions.
With Pro, pressure adjustments can be made from the cab. With Pro plus scales and Auto Mode, the system can automatically adjust pressure based on target bale weight.
That does not mean the operator never checks the baler, but it does reduce the need to stop and make repeated manual density adjustments.
Scales & Auto Mode FAQs
How scales work, why Auto Mode requires scales, and why Pro is usually recommended when buying scales.
We generally recommend Pro if you want scales. Lite can display bale weight, but Pro can use scale information to enable Auto Mode and automatically adjust pressure.
Lite with scales is still useful if you only want weight visibility. Pro with scales gives you both weight visibility and automatic pressure control.
Yes. Lite can display bale weight when paired with compatible BestBale scales.
The important limitation is that Lite does not control pressure. The operator can use the weight information to make decisions, but pressure adjustments still have to be made manually.
Lite shows the bale weight, but it cannot adjust pressure. If the bale weight is off, the operator still has to make density adjustments manually.
For some operations, that is enough. For customers who want the system to automatically respond to bale weight, Pro is the better fit.
Pro with scales enables Auto Mode. That allows the system to automatically adjust pressure to help keep bales near the target weight.
This is where scales provide the most value because the system can use the weight information instead of simply displaying it.
Yes. Auto Mode requires compatible BestBale scales because the system needs live bale-weight information.
Without scale data, the system does not know whether the bales are heavier or lighter than the target, so it cannot make automatic weight-based pressure adjustments.
No. Without scales, the system does not have the bale-weight input needed to automatically adjust pressure.
A Pro system without scales can still be used in Manual Mode for in-cab pressure control, but Auto Mode requires compatible BestBale scales.
The operator sets the target bale weight, watches the baler, and keeps feeding the baler. The system handles pressure adjustments automatically.
The operator still needs to manage ground speed, windrows, crop conditions, and overall baler performance. Auto Mode simply helps with the pressure-control side of maintaining target bale weight.
Yes. That is one of the biggest benefits. The operator does not have to keep getting out of the cab to make density adjustments.
There may still be times when the operator checks the baler or makes other adjustments, but routine bale-weight pressure changes can be handled from the cab or automatically through Auto Mode.
BestBale scales are designed to provide reliable live bale-weight information. In typical use, approximately 85% of bale weights are within ±2 pounds under proper conditions.
Ground conditions, operating speed, calibration, installation, and baler setup can affect performance. The scale is a real-time field tool, so consistent operation and proper setup are important.
BestBale offers flat drop and quarter turn scale options for different bale sizes and chute setups.
The correct scale depends on your baler, bale size, and how the bale exits the chamber. Use the Kit Builder or contact BestBale if you are unsure which scale fits your setup.
The 18-inch flat drop scale handles 30–38 inch bales. The 18-inch quarter turn scale handles 32–48 inch bales.
The 22-inch flat drop scale handles 38–44 inch bales. The 22-inch quarter turn scale handles 32–48 inch bales.
Bale weight is displayed in the cab. It can also be displayed at the baler depending on the scale setup.
This gives the tractor operator real-time feedback and can also make it easier for someone near the baler to see what is happening during setup or testing.
BestBale scale systems can show live bale weights, recent individual bale weights, recent average weight, and total field average weight depending on the system configuration.
This helps the operator see more than just one bale at a time. The trend can be just as important as an individual bale weight.
The last eight-bale average helps show the trend instead of letting one unusual bale mislead the operator.
It gives a clearer picture of whether bale weight is drifting heavier, lighter, or staying close to target. This is useful because one odd bale may not represent what the baler is actually doing.
Lite vs Pro FAQs
Choosing between Lite and Pro depends on whether you want monitoring only or monitoring plus control.
Lite monitors. Pro monitors and controls.
Lite gives the operator helpful baling information. Pro adds hydraulic pressure control and, when paired with compatible BestBale scales, Auto Mode for automatic bale-weight-based pressure control.
Lite is best for customers who want affordable monitoring, bale count, stroke count, optional flake count, optional moisture, and optional scale visibility without pressure control.
It is a good fit for customers who want better information from the cab but do not need automatic pressure adjustment.
Pro is best for customers who want pressure control, scales, Auto Mode, more automation, and the ability to make adjustments from the cab.
It is especially helpful for operations that sell by the bale or bundle, run multiple operators, bale long days, or want more consistent bale weights.
No. Lite does not have Auto Mode.
Lite can show information like bale count, stroke data, and optional bale weight, but it does not automatically control pressure.
Yes, Pro has Auto Mode when paired with compatible BestBale scales.
Auto Mode uses live bale-weight information from the scales to automatically adjust pressure toward the target weight.
No. Lite does not control hydraulic pressure.
With Lite, the operator can use the information on the display to make decisions, but pressure changes still have to be made manually on the baler.
Yes. Pro includes hydraulic pressure control on compatible balers.
That control can be used manually from the cab, or automatically with Auto Mode when compatible BestBale scales are installed.
Lite can show bale weights when paired with compatible scales. Pro is usually the better choice if you want the system to use that weight information for Auto Mode and pressure control.
If you only want to see the weight, Lite may be enough. If you want the system to help hold a target weight automatically, Pro is the better fit.
Yes. If you only want bale count, stroke information, and basic visibility, Lite may be the better value.
Lite is a good starting point for customers who want better feedback from the cab without adding pressure control or Auto Mode.
Pro is the better fit. Lite still requires manual adjustments.
Pro lets you control pressure from the cab, and Pro with scales enables Auto Mode. That is the setup that most directly reduces repeated trips out of the cab for density changes.
Yes. Lite is a practical starting point for customers who want useful in-cab information without the cost or complexity of a full control system.
It can also be a good fit for older balers, manual-tension balers, or operations that want to improve consistency without adding automation.
Pro is often a good fit for commercial producers, multi-operator operations, premium hay markets, and customers selling by the bale or bundle.
It can also be useful for smaller operations that want more control and automation. The right choice depends more on the customer’s goals than on operation size alone.
Upgrade Options & Add-On FAQs
Questions about moving from Lite to Pro, reusing add-ons, moving systems between balers, and Pro 710 knotter lubrication.
Technically, yes, but it is usually not the most economical path to upgrade the components directly.
In most cases, it is more economical to sell the Lite kit and buy a new Pro kit. If you already know you want Pro features eventually, it is usually better to start with Pro.
The Lite and Pro base systems are different. By the time the main components are changed, most customers are better off selling the Lite kit and purchasing a Pro kit.
Some add-ons may carry over, but the core system change is usually significant enough that a direct component upgrade is not the best value.
Generally, yes, assuming it is the same baler model and the scale setup is compatible.
The scale system itself is often compatible between Lite and Pro, but the base monitor and control system are different. Contact BestBale if you are trying to plan a future move from Lite to Pro.
Many add-on features are compatible between Lite and Pro when used on the same compatible baler model.
Compatibility depends on the add-on, the baler, and the system configuration. Scales and certain sensors may transfer, but harnessing or mounting parts may differ.
In most cases, yes. Scale systems are generally compatible between Lite and Pro when used on the same compatible baler model.
The bigger issue is usually not Lite versus Pro, but whether the scale setup fits the baler model, chute style, and bale size.
No. Mounting brackets are not universal between baler models.
Even when the display, cab harness, controller, or sensors are similar, the baler harness and mounting brackets often change from one baler model to another.
Some main components may transfer, but you may need a new baler harness and different mounting brackets.
For example, many Pro 710 kits share the same screen, cab harness, sensors, and controller, but the baler harness and sensor brackets usually vary by baler model. Contact BestBale before assuming a full kit can move directly.
If Pro is the long-term goal, buying Pro from the start is usually the better investment.
Lite is a good system for monitoring, but it is not usually the most economical stepping stone into Pro if you already know you want pressure control and Auto Mode later.
Yes, in many cases, if a compatible scale system is available for your baler and chute setup.
Before planning on a future scale upgrade, it is best to confirm compatibility. Some chute or bundler configurations may limit scale options.
Yes, in many cases, if the system and baler setup are compatible with the moisture option selected.
Some kits support moisture pads, some support the Gazeeka Hay Hound, and some support Hay Hound only. Check compatibility before ordering.
The Pro 710 knotter lubrication system can use grease or oil, but we recommend grease.
The system uses a divider block so each zerk gets lubricated once per cycle. In the settings, the operator can choose how many bales are made between lubrication cycles.
Some OEM systems use time-based lubrication cycles. BestBale’s Pro 710 knotter lubrication is based on bale count, which makes lubrication more consistent and predictable.
Instead of greasing based on time, the system lubricates based on how many bales have actually been made. That helps the lubrication interval match baler use more closely.
Moisture Option FAQs
Moisture pad and Gazeeka Hay Hound questions, including accuracy, calibration, and steamer requirements.
BestBale offers Delmhorst moisture pad integration and Gazeeka Hay Hound integration depending on the system and baler setup.
The right moisture option depends on your accuracy needs, budget, baler model, and whether you plan to run a steamer with AutoSTEAM.
Moisture pads are a good gauge and an excellent value for the money.
They are useful for watching moisture trends from the cab, but they need to be offset correctly in the monitor after installation. They are best used as a guide rather than an exact lab-style measurement.
Yes. After installing the pads, you should apply the correct offset in the monitor so the readings point you in the right direction.
This step is important because every baler, hay condition, and installation can be slightly different. A good offset makes the readings much more useful.
The best method is to install the pads, then use a well-cured bale of hay as a reference.
Probe the bale with your hand moisture probe, then run the bale across the moisture pads and adjust the offset in the monitor until the readings match as closely as possible.
It is best to do this with fully cured hay in dry conditions. Excess humidity, dew, or surface moisture can affect moisture pad readings.
Not always. They are best understood as a helpful gauge and value-based moisture tool rather than the most precise moisture system available.
They can still be very useful because they help show moisture trends and changes while baling, especially after the offset has been set correctly.
Yes. For the money, they are an excellent value and give the operator useful moisture visibility from the cab.
They are not the highest-end moisture option, but they are a practical way to add moisture awareness without the cost of a more advanced system.
Moisture pads are best for customers who want affordable moisture visibility in the cab. They are useful for watching moisture trends and noticing changes across a field.
They can help the operator make better decisions, especially when hay conditions are changing during the day or into the evening.
The Gazeeka Hay Hound is a higher-end moisture system that integrates with BestBale and provides live moisture readings.
It is the preferred moisture option when accuracy is especially important or when the customer wants to use AutoSTEAM with a compatible steamer.
Yes. The Hay Hound is more accurate than moisture pads.
Moisture pads are a good value and a useful gauge, while the Hay Hound is the more advanced moisture system.
We believe the Gazeeka Hay Hound is the most accurate hay moisture system on the market.
It is very good at detecting moisture differences from bale to bale, which is one of the most important things an operator needs to know in the field.
Not necessarily. It may not always tell you that a 15% bale is exactly 15.0%, but it is very good at detecting moisture differences and showing when one bale is wetter than another.
That makes it very useful in real-world baling conditions because relative changes and bale-to-bale differences are often what the operator needs to respond to quickly.
Choose Hay Hound if moisture accuracy is very important, if you want the best available moisture input, or if you plan to run a steamer with AutoSTEAM.
Choose moisture pads if you want a simpler, lower-cost way to watch moisture trends from the cab.
If you want to use AutoSTEAM, yes. The Gazeeka Hay Hound is required because it provides the moisture input the system uses to control steam.
A steamer can be used manually without AutoSTEAM, but AutoSTEAM needs the Hay Hound input in order to make automatic steam adjustments.
AutoSTEAM FAQs
How AutoSTEAM works, what it requires, and why Hay Hound calibration matters.
AutoSTEAM is a BestBale Pro feature that automatically controls steam output based on target moisture and live Gazeeka Hay Hound readings.
The operator sets a desired moisture target, and the system makes steam adjustments to help keep hay close to that target.
Yes. AutoSTEAM requires the Gazeeka Hay Hound because the Hay Hound provides the moisture input.
Without that live moisture input, the system does not know whether it should increase, decrease, or maintain steam output.
AutoSTEAM uses Hay Hound moisture readings to decide whether to increase, decrease, or maintain steam output.
Without that input, AutoSTEAM does not have the information it needs to control steam properly. The Hay Hound is the sensor input that makes the automatic system possible.
Yes. AutoSTEAM needs the flake counter because the flake counter helps the system turn steam on and off at the beginning and end of windrows.
This helps reduce unnecessary steam use when hay is not feeding and helps the system respond properly when baling starts again.
When the Gazeeka Hay Hound is calibrated correctly and reading accurately, AutoSTEAM can keep moisture very close to your target.
AutoSTEAM is designed to react quickly because steam control does not allow much room for error. The goal is to keep moisture in an acceptable range without waiting through a long run of wet or dry bales before adjusting.
AutoSTEAM can be inconsistent if the Hay Hound is not calibrated correctly. AutoSTEAM depends on the Hay Hound as its moisture input, so accurate setup matters.
For best results, the Hay Hound needs proper air calibration, correct parameter settings, and an accurate offset.
Yes. When properly set up, AutoSTEAM uses advanced control logic to react to moisture conditions and help keep hay close to the target moisture.
The system is designed to be responsive because steam control needs to adjust quickly as hay conditions change.
Yes. Instead of constantly adjusting steam manually, the operator can set the target and let the system manage steam adjustments.
This can be especially helpful during long baling windows, changing conditions, or when the operator is already managing baler speed, windrows, weight, and moisture.
No. AutoSTEAM is not required to use a steamer.
However, we strongly recommend it because we believe AutoSTEAM technology can deliver more consistent results than manual steam adjustment when it is set up properly.
Yes. AutoSTEAM includes automatic on/off control at the start and end of each windrow.
This helps reduce operator workload and helps avoid applying steam when hay is not feeding through the baler.
No. AutoSTEAM is a Pro feature.
It requires the Pro system, the required moisture input, and compatible steamer integration.
AutoSTEAM works with compatible Staheli West steamer models. The 432 and 632 models are compatible.
The 331 model is compatible if updated properly. Staheli West 6110 and 6210 steamers are not compatible and cannot be upgraded for AutoSTEAM.
Bale Butler FAQs
Answers about Bale Butler compatibility, how it works, and why the mechanical design matters.
The Bale Butler is a mechanical singulation system designed to take two adjacent rows of bales from a double baler and feed them into one organized path for a Bale Baron.
It is built for a specific double baler and bundler setup, not as a universal device for every bundler configuration.
It helps a Bale Baron handle bales from a double baler by preventing two bales from entering the pickup area at the same time.
The goal is to turn two adjacent bale rows into one controlled feed path so the bundler can work more consistently.
The Bale Butler uses a mechanical gate system. One bale is allowed through while the other is held back, then the system resets for the next bale.
This simple alternating action keeps the bales from arriving together at the bundler pickup.
No. The Bale Butler does not use electronics.
That is intentional. The design is mechanical so it is easier to understand, adjust, and maintain in the field.
No. The Bale Butler does not rely on hydraulics.
It uses a mechanical design instead of hydraulic cylinders, sensors, or control electronics.
The simple mechanical design makes it easier to understand, adjust, and service.
There are no electronics, no hydraulics, and no complicated timing system. That simplicity is one of the main advantages of the Bale Butler.
Yes. The BestBale flat drop chute is required because it places the bales into two adjacent rows before they reach the Bale Butler.
The Bale Butler is designed around that bale placement. Without the correct bale row pattern, the system is not being used in its intended configuration.
The Bale Butler is required when a customer is using the Massey Ferguson 1436.DB double baler, the BestBale flat drop chute, and a Bale Baron pickup or self-propelled model.
That is the only officially compatible configuration at this time.
No. The Bale Butler is not designed for every double-baler or bundler setup.
It is specifically designed around the Massey Ferguson 1436.DB, BestBale flat drop chute, and Bale Baron pickup or self-propelled models.
No. The Bale Butler is unnecessary for Kubota double balers because Kubota double balers already have a singulation chute behind the baler.
Because the Kubota setup already handles singulation differently, the Bale Butler is not the right product for that application.
The Bale Butler has not been tested with the TwinPak, so we do not recommend it for TwinPak use at this time.
That does not mean a custom solution could never exist, but it is not an approved or recommended Bale Butler configuration right now.
The Bale Butler is designed for Bale Baron pickup models 4245P, 4250P, 5245P, and 5250P, as well as the self-propelled 6240SP.
If you are running a different bundler or a custom setup, contact BestBale before assuming compatibility.
Yes. The Bale Butler is available to order.
Because it is built for a specific configuration, customers should understand the intended use and compatibility limits before purchasing.
Kubota Pro 1000 Kit FAQs
Questions specific to the Kubota 2012 and 2014 Pro 1000 system.
The Kubota Pro 1000 kit is designed for the Kubota 2012 and Kubota 2014 balers.
The base kit is the same between both models. The scale kit varies slightly because the bale chamber heights are different, so the chamber extension hardware is different.
No. At this time, the Kubota Pro 1000 kit is specifically for the Kubota 2012 and 2014 balers.
If you have a different Kubota model, contact BestBale or check the Kit Builder for current compatibility.
Yes. The Kubota Pro 1000 can be purchased as a base kit separately from the scale package.
Most customers buy the base kit and scale package together because that unlocks the full value of the system, including Auto Mode, but they can be purchased separately.
The base kit includes a 10-inch touchscreen display, cab harness with quick connect at the rear cab window, baler harness, ECU controller, and integration with the factory Kubota pressure control, stroke counter, and flake counter components already on the baler.
Because the baler already has certain factory sensors and components, the BestBale system ties into those existing features instead of duplicating them.
The scale package includes the scale hardware needed for the baler setup, including load cells, shock absorbers, scale mounting hardware, scale amplifier box, and chamber extension hardware.
The base kit is the same between the Kubota 2012 and 2014, but the scale kit varies slightly because the bale chamber heights are different.
Yes. The Kubota Pro 1000 kit plugs into the existing Kubota harness and controls the factory Kubota pressure valve.
This allows the BestBale system to provide pressure control without replacing the factory valve system.
Yes. BestBale scales are available for the Kubota 2012 and 2014, but they require the BestBale Kubota Pro 1000 kit.
The scales and Pro 1000 base kit work together so the system can display bale weight and enable Auto Mode when properly equipped.
Yes, when paired with BestBale scales. Auto Mode requires both the Pro 1000 base kit and BestBale scales.
If a customer buys the base kit without scales, Auto Mode will not be available because the system does not have live bale-weight input.
Yes. The Pro 1000 kit ties into the factory Kubota flake counter.
That allows the BestBale display to show flake count using the existing factory flake-counting system on the baler.
No. The Kubota Pro 1000 kit does not display bale length. It provides flake count, not bale length.
Customers sometimes ask this because the baler has flake-count information, but flake count and bale length are not the same measurement.
No. The Kubota Pro 1000 kit does not support Delmhorst moisture pads.
For this kit, the supported moisture option is the Gazeeka Hay Hound.
Yes. The Gazeeka Hay Hound is supported as the moisture option for the Kubota Pro 1000 kit.
It is also the required moisture input if the customer wants to use AutoSTEAM with a compatible steamer.
Yes. The Kubota Pro 1000 kit supports AutoSTEAM when paired with a compatible Staheli West steamer and Gazeeka Hay Hound.
Staheli West 432 and 632 steamers are compatible. Some 331 models may require software or hardware updates before AutoSTEAM can be used.
Yes. The Kubota Pro 1000 kit is available to order.
If installation manuals are marked coming soon in another section of the website, that refers to the manual status, not the kit availability.
Massey Ferguson Pro 1000 Kit FAQs
Questions specific to the Massey Ferguson 1436.DB Pro 1000 system.
The Massey Ferguson Pro 1000 kit is designed specifically for the Massey Ferguson 1436.DB double baler.
It is built around that baler’s harnessing, controls, and double-baler configuration.
No. At this time, the Massey Ferguson Pro 1000 kit is specifically for the MF 1436.DB.
If you have a different Massey Ferguson double baler setup, contact BestBale before assuming compatibility.
The standard kit includes a 10-inch touchscreen display, cab harness, baler harness, ECU controller, pressure control integration, flake counter integration, control of the factory baler lights, and control of the factory knotter lube system.
BestBale ties into systems already on the baler where appropriate, which keeps the kit integrated with the MF 1436.DB platform.
Yes. The system uses the existing Massey Ferguson hydraulic pressure valve.
This lets the BestBale Pro 1000 system control pressure through the baler’s existing pressure-control hardware.
Yes. BestBale scales are available as an option. Customers can add left-side scales only or both left- and right-side scales.
Adding BestBale scales is what allows Auto Mode to work with the BestBale Pro 1000 system.
No. The AGCO scale kit is not compatible with BestBale Auto Mode.
Customers must use the BestBale Pro 1000 base kit and BestBale scale kit for Auto Mode to work properly.
Yes. Auto Mode works on the Massey Ferguson 1436.DB Pro 1000 kit the same way it works on other BestBale Pro systems, as long as the customer has the BestBale Pro 1000 base kit and BestBale scale kit.
The system uses BestBale scale input to automatically adjust pressure toward the target bale weight.
No. The Massey Ferguson 1436.DB Pro 1000 kit does not display bale length. It provides flake count, not bale length.
Flake count is useful for understanding bale formation, but it should not be confused with a measured bale-length reading.
Yes. BestBale offers a flat drop chute for the MF 1436.DB, including scale-compatible and non-scale versions.
The correct chute depends on whether the customer wants to add BestBale scales now or may want scale capability later.
The scale-compatible flat drop chute is built so BestBale scales can be added. The non-scale flat drop chute drops bales side by side but cannot be upgraded with scales later.
If there is any chance you may want scales in the future, the scale-compatible chute is the safer choice.
Yes. The Massey Ferguson Pro 1000 kit, when used with the MF 1436.DB, BestBale flat drop chute, and BestBale scales, can pair with the Bale Butler for customers running a pickup model or self-propelled Bale Baron.
The Bale Butler is sold separately and is required for that specific MF 1436.DB, BestBale flat drop chute, and Bale Baron configuration.
No. Delmhorst moisture pads are not compatible with this kit.
For the Massey Ferguson Pro 1000, the supported moisture option is the Gazeeka Hay Hound.
Yes. The Gazeeka Hay Hound is compatible as an upgraded moisture option.
It is also the required moisture input if the customer wants to use AutoSTEAM with a compatible steamer.
Yes, with the correct Gazeeka Hay Hound setup and compatible Staheli West steamer.
As with other AutoSTEAM applications, Hay Hound calibration and compatible steamer hardware are important for good performance.
Yes. A camera is a compatible option.
This can help the operator add visibility to areas of the baler or chute that are harder to see from the cab.
Yes. The base Pro 1000 kit controls the light and knotter lube systems already on the baler.
This allows those existing baler features to be managed through the BestBale system where supported.
Yes. The Massey Ferguson Pro 1000 kit is available to order now.
If an installation manual is marked coming soon, that refers to the manual status, not the kit availability.
TwinPak Pro 1200 Kit FAQs
Questions specific to the TwinPak SB2XR Pro 1200 system.
The TwinPak Pro 1200 kit is designed specifically for the TwinPak SB2XR.
It is not currently listed for other TwinPak models.
No. At this time, it is for the TwinPak SB2XR only.
If you have a different TwinPak model, contact BestBale before assuming compatibility.
The TwinPak Pro 1200 uses a larger, more premium 12-inch touchscreen display instead of the 10-inch touchscreen used in the Pro 1000 kits.
The larger display is the main reason for the Pro 1200 name.
The TwinPak Pro 1200 kit includes a 12-inch touchscreen display, cab harness, comprehensive baler harness, pressure control, stroke counter, bale counter, PTO sensor, and right-side scale.
It is built as a more complete Pro-level setup for the TwinPak SB2XR platform.
Yes. Pressure control is included.
This allows the system to manage baler pressure as part of the Pro 1200 control package.
Yes. The TwinPak Pro 1200 kit includes right-side scale capability as the standard scale option.
The scale input is what allows the system to support Auto Mode on this platform.
No. The TwinPak Pro 1200 system weighs the right side only.
This is the supported scale configuration for the TwinPak SB2XR at this time.
Yes. Auto Mode is enabled with the scale and pressure-control system.
The system uses scale information to make pressure adjustments toward the target bale weight.
No. Flake counting is not standard and is not available as an option on the TwinPak SB2XR.
The system still includes other Pro 1200 monitoring and control features, but flake counting is not supported on this baler.
Yes. The TwinPak Pro 1200 supports the Gazeeka Hay Hound.
This is the supported moisture option for the TwinPak Pro 1200 system.
No. The TwinPak Pro 1200 does not support Delmhorst moisture pads at this time.
For moisture monitoring on this system, use the Gazeeka Hay Hound.
Yes, when paired with the appropriate compatible Staheli West steamer and required moisture input.
As with other AutoSTEAM setups, the Gazeeka Hay Hound is the moisture input the system uses to control steam.
Yes. It is available to order now.
If the installation manual is marked coming soon, that refers to the manual status, not kit availability.
Compatibility, Installation, Warranty & Support FAQs
General questions about checking compatibility, installation, warranty, and getting help from BestBale.
The best way to check compatibility is to use the BestBale Kit Builder or contact BestBale with your baler make, model, and desired options.
Compatibility can depend on the baler model, chute setup, scale choice, moisture option, and whether you want Lite or Pro features.
Yes. The Kit Builder is the best place to start because compatibility can change as new kits, options, and baler models are added.
It helps narrow down compatible choices before you contact BestBale or place an order.
Contact BestBale. If your baler is not listed in the Kit Builder, we can help determine whether a kit is available, coming soon, or possible as a future option.
Some balers may not be listed because they are uncommon, still being evaluated, or not compatible with certain options.
No. Some components are shared, but brackets, mounts, harnessing, and scale hardware vary by baler model.
This is why it is important to select the correct baler model when using the Kit Builder or ordering parts.
Many add-ons are compatible between Lite and Pro on the same baler model, but mounting hardware is not universal between balers.
The add-on itself may be similar, but the brackets, harnessing, or installation details can change depending on the baler.
No. Mounting brackets are not universal between baler models.
Contact BestBale if you are trying to move a kit from one baler to another. We can help identify which parts may transfer and which parts need to be changed.
Yes. If you are unsure which system or options fit your baler and operation, contact BestBale and we can help you sort through the setup.
It helps if you know your baler make, model, bale size, chute style, and whether you are interested in Lite, Pro, scales, moisture, or AutoSTEAM.
Most popular Lite and Pro kits are designed to install without cutting, welding, or drilling.
Some uncommon baler models or specialized setups may require minor modification, but BestBale tries to keep systems practical and easy to install.
A typical Lite kit installs in about two hours, depending on options.
A typical Pro kit with scales installs in about four hours, depending on options, baler condition, and installer comfort level. More complex systems can take longer.
No. BestBale systems are designed so a careful customer can install them by following the instructions.
A specialized technician is not normally required, but attention to detail matters. Sensor placement, adjustment, and wiring should be done carefully.
It helps to have the baler cleaned and washed before installation. The most important thing is to follow the instructions carefully, avoid rushing, and make sure sensors are adjusted and gapped properly.
A clean baler makes installation easier and helps keep dirt, dust, and hay buildup from getting in the way of brackets, sensors, and wiring.
BestBale offers a 12-month warranty covering defects in workmanship and craftsmanship.
The warranty is intended to cover quality and build-related issues, not damage from misuse, incorrect installation, or use outside the product’s intended application.
Yes. Lite and Pro systems have the same 12-month warranty.
If you have a warranty question, contact BestBale with your kit details, installation date, and a description of the issue.
The Bale Butler is currently an early-release product. BestBale stands behind the workmanship, craftsmanship, mechanical design, and overall build quality, but customers should understand the product’s intended use and limitations before purchasing.
Because it is designed for a specific baler, chute, and Bale Baron configuration, compatibility should be confirmed before ordering.
Those kits are available to order. If an installation page says “coming soon,” that refers to the installation manuals, not the kits themselves.
Manual availability and kit availability are separate. Contact BestBale if you need help confirming current lead time or documentation status.
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